Jeff Krulik is one of the best interviewers ever in documentary film history. That’s not hyperbole, that’s a fact.

However, in the above embedded podcast, Krulik has the tables turned on him by one of the best interviewers in film journalism, Mike Plante. That’s not hyperbole, either. That’s a fact, too. And, happily, Krulik is a wonderful storyteller, so this 100-minute chat is a breezy, informational, fascinating and educational discussion about Krulik’s influences, the Baltimore/D.C. music scene, a personal history of public access TV, a reminiscence about Ernest Borgnine and, oh, so much more.

On a personal note, I’ve known Krulik myself for several years now, yet I still learned a lot about the guy listening to this. Since I’m such a huge fan of his work, a lot of it makes more “sense” to me now, hearing about how such diverse things as the original Texas Chain Saw Massacre, Mad Magazine and an obscure local D.C. show called Capitol Edition hosted by John Goldsmith basically congealed to influence Krulik’s filmmaking style on gems such as Heavy Metal Parking Lot, Ernest Borgnine on the Bus, King of Porn and tons more.

And what’s really special about this podcast is how Plante hits on Krulik’s endearing passion for celebrating cultural outsiders and other social oddballs, which is what makes his documentaries such a joy to watch; and, like Heavy Metal Parking Lot, to watch over and over and over again.